hi! Detroit Sucks. Big Suprise.

hi! Detroit sucks. big suprise. my aunt has one of those black Dells that that dumb blonde kid on TV is always telling peo­ple they’re going to get “it”… and she has a cable modem. so hot.

The cig­a­r­rette smoke here can be cut with a wed­ding cake knife. In fact, i’m doing that now… wav­ing, and wav­ing a knife around so as to breathe.

UPDATE: I don’t appre­ci­ate the ras­cist com­ments, so I am fil­ter­ing them now.

I will allow neg­a­tive or dis­re­spec­tive com­ments, but cer­tain kinds of lan­guage are out-of-bounds.

Play nice & thanks,
Ned

17 Responses to “hi! Detroit Sucks. Big Suprise.”


  • To Bid­Dog:
    You real­ly need to chill out on Detroit, If your ass ever step a foot in Detroit they will blow your head off man, you talk a lot of smack, but I bet you couldn’t hang a sec­ond in that joint. Yeah you think you Big­Don now, them nigas will take your ass out, try com­ing down here talk­ing ass to Detroit, you’ll see my granny and papa fight­ing to, yeah they’ll go to jail for smack­ing your ass up.

    I’m not try­ing to make Detroit look like ass, But don’t step foot down there if you got some shit to say like that, don’t talk stuff. Chica­go is just as worst so don’t talk and your city is a sec­ond away from being there too.

    To The Real Deal:
    You total­ly right man, I love Detroit, but I moved becuase of trou­ble man, it’s a lot of stuff go on down there. You try to do right but nigaz got drugs or going to jail even the ladies. So I moved to Hous­ton, TX for a bet­ter life I got a house, a mus­tang, and it’s just very respect­ful, down here all black folk got respect you may go into 4th ward,5th ward and find some crazy ones but oth­er than that it’s cool. Peace out Man and good luck to Detroit. I love ya’ll and tell nana and poo I be down there this christ­mas.

  • Wow.
    The lev­el of hate and dis­con­tent on this forum is amaz­ing. So I’ll throw gas on the fire!

    I was born and raised in a small Texas town. The dif­fer­ence in atti­tudes when I moved to Detroit was hard to adjust to. There are a few real­i­ties we all need to deal with:
    1 Blan­ket state­ments about SOME res­i­dents with expen­sive rims are pure­ly racists. Most of the peo­ple you see with flashy cars in Detroit work for one of the ‘Big 3’, work­ing 70 — 80 hours a week. What they choose to spend their mon­ey on is their busi­ness, they’ve earned it.

    2. There are BEAUTIFUL areas of the city, (River­front, Sher­wood For­est, Boston Edi­son Dis­trict etc.). And to make any com­ments about City res­i­dents not car­ing with­out ‘SOME’ attached is false and mis­lead­ing. The bulk of run down hous­ing is rental prop­er­ty. The own­ers of which, (by and large accord­ing to tax records) are pri­mar­i­ly sub­ur­ban­ites

    By the same token

    3. At the present time, there are sev­er­al areas of the city that are not fit for Cau­casian occu­pa­tion. As stat­ed before, I am look­ing with an out­siders view point. There are no areas of the city I have not been in, (being Black, 6′1″ and 315 lbs does help). But I’ve had no prob­lems. Not one. I’ve seen a lot of bad things and con­di­tions that we just would not stand for in Texas. All of the respon­si­bil­i­ty ulti­mate­ly falls on the shoul­ders of the res­i­dents, but it is not a lost cause.

  • Hmm…
    They say things in Texas are big­ger, but at 315 lbs I don’t think you are clas­si­fied as aver­age in size my friend.
    With that said, it is impor­tant to under­stand the tone here with “most” of us. It is a tone of dis­cussed, a tone of aggra­va­tion, and just plain ole frus­tra­tion, but not hate.
    The hate is high with those that come to sim­ply “hate” and are most like­ly liv­ing with mom­my and dad­dy, or aren’t mature enough to have a dia­logue.

    The fun­ny (or not so fun­ny) thing is, as said before there are many fin­gers point­ing the blame…but with every hand point­ing a finger…there are 4 point­ing right back. What I am say­ing is it is easy to blame blame blame, but not so easy accept­ing respon­si­bil­i­ty.
    In my neigh­bor­hood most peo­ple tend to their own prop­er­ty with care, which relates zero to eco­nom­ics but rather pride. Pride to where you live, who you are, or just plain pride in know­ing you are con­tribut­ing to the beau­ty of a com­mu­ni­ty.

    Onward to you accu­sa­tion of racism…That is where you intel­li­gence takes a plum­met­ing drop right into the crap hole. It’s the same as blam­ing the land­lords in Detroit. It is of course the easy thing to do…but it lacks one thing, shared respon­si­bil­i­ty!
    If a guy as you said is work­ing 60 to 80 hours a week at the big three, and all he can do with his mon­ey is blow it on a 40,000 vehi­cle 10,000 rims, and 5,000 or more on sound,
    and at the same time as hav­ing a house that looks like crap with garbage in the yard or what­ev­er is irre­spon­si­ble.
    That is a self­ish per­son, but as you said it’s his mon­ey he can do what he wants with it. That sure is the easy way out aint it? Being respon­si­ble is nev­er easy, hav­ing fun and par­ty­ing is not hard at all, but from the looks of the D, it seems there may be a lit­tle too much par­ty­ing going on.
    Life is not about just doing what­ev­er you want with­out regard to oth­ers.
    How are peo­ple sup­posed to live amongst each oth­er in a com­mu­ni­ty if we take that kind of self­ish posi­tion?
    And by the way, who the f are you to call me racist (or even imply it), you don’t even know any­thing about me. Christ I could be freakin Japan­ese or Hait­ian for all you know!

    Back to the renters or rental units…I rent­ed and I kept my yard and house look­ing decent, I have also lived next to old peo­ple and vacant prop­er­ties and helped take care of these types of things when they could not. It’s called pri­or­i­ties, life pri­or­i­ties and high morals are the back­bone of a suc­cess­ful com­mu­ni­ty.
    So while Joe/Bill/Tom have a right to buy what they want, the have a duty and respon­si­bil­i­ty to help their com­mu­ni­ty by tak­ing care of their own prop­er­ty.

    There are some that do care about whats what in the city, but by and large you have this huge body of peo­ple wait­ing (like hun­gry baby chicks wait­ing for food from moth­er bird) for some­one to come save them.

    It’s time to wake up and be respon­si­ble!

  • Okay, To every­body I under­stand the whole point of view of every last one of you guys post. By all means this is just so dam sim­ple, Detroit just needs to care, it’s not enough peo­ple fight­ing for their com­mu­ni­ties and fight­ing for the whole city of Detroit. What every­one needs to under­stand is is that until Detroit straight­en there whole atti­tude or mind-set of there city, and stop the men­tal­i­ty of not car­ing for nobody but them­selves, and start car­ing for there com­mu­ni­ty then they would be okay. I think every­body has been say­ing the same thing just in a diffrent way (except for one or two) and no one is tak­ing time to read through care­ful­ly and every­one is just clash­ing at each oth­er, but I’m sor­ry Big Don is deserv­ing of every negi­t­ive com­ment, he is noth­ing but a talk of ass.
    I think every­one has the right of free speech, but when you talk about Detroit vs.Chicago there is no diffrence, there both in the same class that’s not mean, that’s the truth. I love the city of Detroit that’s were I grew up at, that’s were my fam­i­ly is but real­i­ty is is that Detroit is not a city of pro­gres­sive­ness and want­i­ng to help there­selves, becuase believe it or not as long as Detroit has a city of pre­doni­mate­ly African-Amer­i­can peo­ple (which I’am) it will nev­er be bet­ter becuase of this new gen­er­a­tion.
    Mar­tin Luther King faught for black free­dom and now that we have it, were still not using what we have, we say were free but our com­mu­ni­ties aren’t free of vio­lence and pover­ty. Mar­tin Luther King gave us the free­dom to speak out and have our own com­mu­ni­ties, and now that we’ve got it what the he’ll are we doing with it, noth­ing. We treat the nice things like ass and theres no respect for our free­dom.
    Ques­tion: What hap­pens to a gro­cery store when they biuld it in Detroit?
    Answer: It does­nt look new after a cou­ple of weeks or a month, becuase of lack of respect. There­fore it turns into a shit hole because nobody cared.
    Ques­tion: What hap­penes to a new park when they build it in Detroit?
    Anwer: It becomes a place were gang­sters hang out at, and drug deal­ers find a look out for young peo­ple so they become a drug deal­er. Because nobody cared about keep­ing the park safe and keep­ing the park clean and pret­ty.
    Ques­tion: What hap­pens to the malls in Detroit?
    Answer: They close the stores down because peo­ple robe and shop lift. “Every­one needs mon­ey ” “so the best way I can get is by rob­ing”.
    Ques­tion: What hap­pens to the banks in Detroit?
    Answer: Wow, thats one thing there going to pro­tect is the mon­ey, so they have to put bul­let­proof glass every where (and no thats not at all banks across The Unit­ed States, that’s just for the black cities or the hood) they don’t do that here in Hous­ton, we don’t have glass over to block us from thiev­ing or rob­ing, we actu­al­ly shake hands with the tellers because once again Hous­ton don’t play shit. Oh, that’s not brag­ging, that’s a point.
    Ques­tion: When was the last time you guys felt Detroit was a mil­lion bucks?
    Answer: I know I feel Hous­ton is a mil­lion bucks. Any­body that doesn’t feel there city is a mil­lion bucks shouldn’t be liv­ing there.

  • Okay, To every­body I under­stand the whole point of view of every last one of you guys post. By all means this is just so dam sim­ple, Detroit just needs to care, it’s not enough peo­ple fight­ing for their com­mu­ni­ties and fight­ing for the whole city of Detroit. What every­one needs to under­stand is is that until Detroit straight­en there whole atti­tude or mind-set of there city, and stop the men­tal­i­ty of not car­ing for nobody but them­selves, and start car­ing for there com­mu­ni­ty then they would be okay. I think every­body has been say­ing the same thing just in a diffrent way (except for one or two) and no one is tak­ing time to read through care­ful­ly and every­one is just clash­ing at each oth­er, but I’m sor­ry Big Don is deserv­ing of every negi­t­ive com­ment, he is noth­ing but a talk of ass.
    I think every­one has the right of free speech, but when you talk about Detroit vs.Chicago there is no diffrence, there both in the same class that’s not mean, that’s the truth. I love the city of Detroit that’s were I grew up at, that’s were my fam­i­ly is but real­i­ty is is that Detroit is not a city of pro­gres­sive­ness and want­i­ng to help there­selves, becuase believe it or not as long as Detroit has a city of pre­doni­mate­ly African-Amer­i­can peo­ple (which I’am) it will nev­er be bet­ter becuase of this new gen­er­a­tion.
    Mar­tin Luther King faught for black free­dom and now that we have it, were still not using what we have, we say were free but our com­mu­ni­ties aren’t free of vio­lence and pover­ty. Mar­tin Luther King gave us the free­dom to speak out and have our own com­mu­ni­ties, and now that we’ve got it what the he’ll are we doing with it, noth­ing. We treat the nice things like ass and theres no respect for our free­dom.
    Ques­tion: What hap­pens to a gro­cery store when they biuld it in Detroit?
    Answer: It does­nt look new after a cou­ple of weeks or a month, becuase of lack of respect. There­fore it turns into a shit hole because nobody cared.
    Ques­tion: What hap­penes to a new park when they build it in Detroit?
    Anwer: It becomes a place were gang­sters hang out at, and drug deal­ers find a look out for young peo­ple so they become a drug deal­er. Because nobody cared about keep­ing the park safe and keep­ing the park clean and pret­ty.
    Ques­tion: What hap­pens to the malls in Detroit?
    Answer: They close the stores down because peo­ple robe and shop lift. “Every­one needs mon­ey ” “so the best way I can get is by rob­ing”.
    Ques­tion: What hap­pens to the banks in Detroit?
    Answer: Wow, thats one thing there going to pro­tect is the mon­ey, so they have to put bul­let­proof glass every where (and no thats not at all banks across The Unit­ed States, that’s just for the black cities or the hood) they don’t do that here in Hous­ton, we don’t have glass over to block us from thiev­ing or rob­ing, we actu­al­ly shake hands with the tellers because once again Hous­ton don’t play shit. Oh, that’s not brag­ging, that’s a point.
    Ques­tion: When was the last time you guys felt Detroit was a mil­lion bucks?
    Answer: I know I feel Hous­ton is a mil­lion bucks. Any­body that doesn’t feel there city is a mil­lion bucks shouldn’t be liv­ing there.

  • Instead of talk­ing on this chat all day peo­ple should be con­cerned about why Detroit has no jobs. The World Trade Orga­ni­za­tion is why nobody has jobs nowa­days. NAFTA gave away all our jobs to mex­i­co. The police in amer­i­ca are get­ting way to cor­rupt. Police stun guns should be banned. I hear way to many sto­ries about police offi­cers using stun guns to hurt peo­ple. Write your con­gress­man and tell them you dont want police offi­cers to use stun guns any­more. Stun guns should a wire into a humans skin so they can shock them with it. Many peo­ple have died beca­sue of police using these cru­el devices. Tell every­body you can that police stun guns need to be banned across the Unit­ed States. Police offi­cers are using the stun guns to abuse peo­ple with.

  • So Big­Dog are you say­ing that Detroit has no jobs because of stun guns and cor­rupt police?

    I am won­der­ing who the law bid­ing cit­i­zens can con­tact about the cor­rupt lowlife crim­i­nals who steal our rights, our streets, our pos­ses­sions, and most of all our faith in soci­ety.

    I like the fact the police to have the abil­i­ty to demo­bi­lize an over­ly aggres­sive indi­vid­ual who is most like­ly hyped up on some­thin.

    I also am in favor of the abil­i­ty for the police to uti­lize a rea­son­able lev­el of pro­fil­ing when per­form­ing their jobs.

    We give the scum crim­i­nals too many rights.

    If a per­son resists arrest, AND there is a rea­son­able assump­tion that the resis­tors will uti­lize ANY means pos­si­ble to escape incar­cer­a­tion, dead­ly force should be autho­rized and used. Most of these lowlifes will NEVER con­tribute any­thing to soci­ety any­ways!

    We spend way too much time at try­ing to find fault in the police.
    Why is that?
    Do you think the fault find­ers or the anti-police, pro­tes­tors are actu­al­ly crim­i­nals them­selves or at least relat­ed to or are friends with some­one who is.
    They say there is hon­or amongst thieves, and any­time a group of peo­ple in a cer­tain com­mu­ni­ty starts whin­ing about the police, a rea­son­ably intel­li­gent indi­vid­ual would have to ask them­selves, is this the same as the imma­ture teens who are resis­tant to any form of author­i­ty.
    Teenagers stick togeth­er like glue against the adults, sounds like the anti-police folks are basi­cal­ly the same (anti-author­i­ty).

    If you freely cohab­i­tate with, or con­tin­ue to har­bor the crim­i­nals in your com­mu­ni­ty, then you your­self will be guilty by asso­ci­a­tion and thus become the tar­get.

    The root cause is not the police, and the ends do jus­ti­fy the means.

  • I just got back from my first trip to Detroit ever. My band played a show at Alvin’s on Cass, off Wood­ward I believe. We stayed at the Hol­i­day Inn on Wash­ing­ton Blvd. I was real­ly blown away by this city and have been read­ing about it since I got back. I’m just very intrigued as to what hap­pened to it. Most of the city area was under con­struc­tion, and the build­ings were all old and worn down. Just very inter­est­ing is all. We had a real­ly good time there and the show was real­ly fun… but I’m now back in Mil­wau­kee try­ing to fig­ure out how Detroit became what it is.

  • I think Detroit must have problems…why else did it’s pop­u­la­tion fall under one mil­lion peo­ple?

  • It’s a shame that free­dom of speech or thought does not exist in this forum.
    The mod has been want­i­ng to sti­fle this thread for a long time now, so shut it down for god sake or else let it flow on it’s own (good or bad)!!!

    Chad asked valid ques­tions, now let peo­ple answer him (truth­ful­ly). You can’t can­dy coat or pro­tect peo­ple from the truth.

  • Dear “truth”,

    I won’t allow racist, hate-filled speech on my weblog. That is not “truth”, nor should it be pro­tect­ed speech.

    I already feel hor­ri­ble for diss­ing Greater Detroit, but I’m let­ting this dis­cus­sion con­tin­ue, so long as it remains civ­il, and sticks to the facts.

    Also, I’m lazy when it comes to approv­ing com­ments. If you all used “Type­key”:http://typekey.com, I wouldn’t have to.

    Thanks,
    the man­age­ment.

  • Ned, This is to you not the board

    You mis­take the facts (hard and cold) for racism or hate filled.
    You sir do not know me, how can you pre-judge my state­ments as hate filled or racist.
    We unfor­tu­nant­ly are a hyper sen­si­tive soci­ety in which you seem to be affect­ed as well.
    I wrote very truth­fui com­ments about the his­to­ry of pol­i­tics in Detroit, like it or not. Noth­ing new, noth­ing that can­not be ver­i­fied read­ing archived news­pa­per arti­cles, or speak­ing to those who lived through it. (Which I did at least most)
    It is not slant.ed nor is it a jad­ed view, but yet you feel the need to be the judge and jury on that.
    This is your forum I accept that, but you have opened it for dis­cus­sion, and then you sen­sor the com­ments. I agree that direct racist or hate mes­sage should be tossed, but only if they direct­ly are ment to hurt some­one per­son­al­ly. If it is a generalization…I say let it alone. Let peo­ple say what they need to.
    Some peo­ple just like to vent, let the dis­cus­sion par­tic­i­pants be the judge as a col­lec­tive. Sort of a democ­ra­cy thing.

    Thanks for lis­ten­ing. Peace
    By the way…I got peeps in Ply­mouth Ma, great place for sure.

  • I can think of no oth­er city in Amer­i­ca in which I would rather have been born than the dynam­ic city of Detroit.

    Ask me why, maybe i’ll respond, some­time.

  • well jsut do u all know i am from detroit. i would have to agree it is some what of a shit hole. but it is start­ing to come up.outside of down town is not great i know but in what city is that not true? it obvi­ous­ly cant be that bad if the super­bowl is com­ing in a year. so please dont dog on city that u dont even live in. cause if u do ur just a worth­less hater­who is just jeal­ous of this city

  • You guys have been talk­ing about Detroits prob­lems for years now. I am from Erie, across the lake from Detroit and have to say thanks for all of the pol­lu­tion the city emits. It gave Erie one of the best sun­sets all over the world. DETROIT DOES SUCK, along with the Pis­tons, the Lions, MSU and the Tigers.

  • I was born and raised in Detroit and I can say it is a great city because of what is has allowed me to become. Its pub­lic school sys­tem has put in me the skills I need­ed to make me suc­cess­ful at the pre­si­gious lib­er­al arts col­lege I now attend. It has also strengthed me pro­fes­sion­al­ly and allows me to be com­pet­i­tive in the aca­d­e­m­ic and work world. I do not regret liv­ing there and I plan to move back there to help in the rebuild­ing and progress of the city.

    Peo­ple, with the help of the media, act as places like Chica­go and New York are such won­der­ful places when they are engulfed in crime and pover­ty. A major dif­fer­ence that peo­ple see in these cities are the devel­oped areas such as the down­town area of Chica­go. If peo­ple look deep­er they can see that these cities have very dan­ger­ous and impov­er­ished areas. Futher­more, every­one should real­ize that all urban areas have some form of sprawl and per­pet­u­at­ing neg­a­tive images of cities like Detroit is con­tribut­ing to the prob­lem and not the solu­tion. The media and the pub­lic can say what it will, but Detroit is on the rise. If you are not a part of the solu­tion, you are a part of the prob­lem. Bad mouthing a city is not a part of the solu­tion and nei­ther is mov­ing away to the sub­urbs, as many have done.

    It’s fun­ny how peo­ple in Amer­i­ca choose to sim­ply talk about prob­lems or flee them. The prob­lems will still be there. Also as we look down upon and talk about cities “suck­ing”, we are becom­ing fur­ther ununit­ed as a nation when we should real­ly be con­cerned about stick­ing togeth­er and not just becom­ing unit­ed when a ter­ror­sit decides to run anoth­er plane into one of our nations build­ings. Unit­ed we stand, divid­ed we fall.

    Detroit is a great city and I am proud of what it has made me. Let us move away from all the “play­er­ha­tion” and let all the cities come togeth­er in our nation.

  • I have to thank Mary for her com­ments.

    Detroi­ters so often shoots them­selves in the back when some­thing hap­pens there.
    They sim­ply view it as anoth­er blotch on our bad image.
    Stop believ­ing it.
    Embrace this city and all that it is, or it will nev­er move for­ward and be stuck for­ev­er with the bad image we keep giv­ing it.
    As far as I’m con­cerned, any­one liv­ing in SE Michi­gan 30 miles in any direc­tion from Wood­ward and Jef­fer­son, is from the great city of Detroit.
    Believe it and Embrace it.

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