hi! Detroit Sucks. Big Suprise.

hi! Detroit sucks. big suprise. my aunt has one of those black Dells that that dumb blonde kid on TV is always telling people they’re going to get “it”… and she has a cable modem. so hot.

The cig­a­r­rette smoke here can be cut with a wed­ding cake knife. In fact, i’m doing that now… waving, and waving a knife around so as to breathe.

UPDATE: I don’t appre­ci­ate the ras­cist com­ments, so I am fil­ter­ing them now.

I will allow neg­a­tive or dis­re­spec­tive com­ments, but cer­tain kinds of lan­guage are out-of-bounds.

Play nice & thanks,
 Ned

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  • winans freak
    September 23, 2004 at 11:46 pm

    To BidDog:
    You really need to chill out on Detroit, If your ass ever step a foot in Detroit they will blow your head off man, you talk a lot of smack, but I bet you couldn’t hang a second in that joint. Yeah you think you BigDon now, them nigas will take your ass out, try coming down here talk­ing ass to Detroit, you’ll see my granny and papa fight­ing to, yeah they’ll go to jail for smack­ing your ass up.

    I’m not trying to make Detroit look like ass, But don’t step foot down there if you got some shit to say like that, don’t talk stuff. Chicago is just as worst so don’t talk and your city is a second away from being there too.

    To The Real Deal:
    You totally right man, I love Detroit, but I moved becuase of trou­ble man, it’s a lot of stuff go on down there. You try to do right but nigaz got drugs or going to jail even the ladies. So I moved to Hous­ton, TX for a better life I got a house, a mus­tang, and it’s just very respect­ful, down here all black folk got respect you may go into 4th ward,5th ward and find some crazy ones but other than that it’s cool. Peace out Man and good luck to Detroit. I love ya’ll and tell nana and poo I be down there this christmas.

  • hushyamouf
    September 30, 2004 at 6:39 pm

    Wow.
    The level of hate and dis­con­tent on this forum is amaz­ing. So I’ll throw gas on the fire!

    I was born and raised in a small Texas town. The dif­fer­ence in atti­tudes when I moved to Detroit was hard to adjust to. There are a few real­i­ties we all need to deal with:
    1 Blan­ket state­ments about SOME res­i­dents with expen­sive rims are purely racists. Most of the people you see with flashy cars in Detroit work for one of the ‘Big 3′, work­ing 70 – 80 hours a week. What they choose to spend their money on is their busi­ness, they’ve earned it.

    2. There are BEAU­TI­FUL areas of the city, (River­front, Sher­wood Forest, Boston Edison Dis­trict etc.). And to make any com­ments about City res­i­dents not caring with­out ‘SOME’ attached is false and mis­lead­ing. The bulk of run down hous­ing is rental prop­erty. The owners of which, (by and large accord­ing to tax records) are pri­mar­ily suburbanites

    By the same token

    3. At the present time, there are sev­eral areas of the city that are not fit for Cau­casian occu­pa­tion. As stated before, I am look­ing with an out­siders view point. There are no areas of the city I have not been in, (being Black, 6’1″ and 315 lbs does help). But I’ve had no prob­lems. Not one. I’ve seen a lot of bad things and con­di­tions that we just would not stand for in Texas. All of the respon­si­bil­ity ulti­mately falls on the shoul­ders of the res­i­dents, but it is not a lost cause.

  • The Real Deal
    October 2, 2004 at 1:44 pm

    Hmm…
    They say things in Texas are bigger, but at 315 lbs I don’t think you are clas­si­fied as aver­age in size my friend.
    With that said, it is impor­tant to under­stand the tone here with “most” of us. It is a tone of dis­cussed, a tone of aggra­va­tion, and just plain ole frus­tra­tion, but not hate.
    The hate is high with those that come to simply “hate” and are most likely living with mommy and daddy, or arenÂ’t mature enough to have a dialogue.

    The funny (or not so funny) thing is, as said before there are many fin­gers point­ing the blame…but with every hand point­ing a finger…there are 4 point­ing right back. What I am saying is it is easy to blame blame blame, but not so easy accept­ing respon­si­bil­ity.
    In my neigh­bor­hood most people tend to their own prop­erty with care, which relates zero to eco­nom­ics but rather pride. Pride to where you live, who you are, or just plain pride in know­ing you are con­tribut­ing to the beauty of a community.

    Onward to you accu­sa­tion of racism…That is where you intel­li­gence takes a plum­met­ing drop right into the crap hole. It’s the same as blam­ing the land­lords in Detroit. It is of course the easy thing to do…but it lacks one thing, shared respon­si­bil­ity!
    If a guy as you said is work­ing 60 to 80 hours a week at the big three, and all he can do with his money is blow it on a 40,000 vehi­cle 10,000 rims, and 5,000 or more on sound,
    and at the same time as having a house that looks like crap with garbage in the yard or what­ever is irre­spon­si­ble.
    That is a self­ish person, but as you said it’s his money he can do what he wants with it. That sure is the easy way out aint it? Being respon­si­ble is never easy, having fun and par­ty­ing is not hard at all, but from the looks of the D, it seems there may be a little too much par­ty­ing going on.
    Life is not about just doing what­ever you want with­out regard to others.
    How are people sup­posed to live amongst each other in a com­mu­nity if we take that kind of self­ish posi­tion?
    And by the way, who the f are you to call me racist (or even imply it), you donÂ’t even know any­thing about me. Christ I could be freakin Japan­ese or Hait­ian for all you know!

    Back to the renters or rental units…I rented and I kept my yard and house look­ing decent, I have also lived next to old people and vacant prop­er­ties and helped take care of these types of things when they could not. It’s called pri­or­i­ties, life pri­or­i­ties and high morals are the back­bone of a suc­cess­ful com­mu­nity.
    So while Joe/Bill/Tom have a right to buy what they want, the have a duty and respon­si­bil­ity to help their com­mu­nity by taking care of their own property.

    There are some that do care about whats what in the city, but by and large you have this huge body of people wait­ing (like hungry baby chicks wait­ing for food from mother bird) for some­one to come save them.

    It’s time to wake up and be responsible!

  • winans freak
    October 9, 2004 at 6:01 pm

    Okay, To every­body I under­stand the whole point of view of every last one of you guys post. By all means this is just so dam simple, Detroit just needs to care, it’s not enough people fight­ing for their com­mu­ni­ties and fight­ing for the whole city of Detroit. What every­one needs to under­stand is is that until Detroit straighten there whole atti­tude or mind-​set of there city, and stop the men­tal­ity of not caring for nobody but them­selves, and start caring for there com­mu­nity then they would be okay. I think every­body has been saying the same thing just in a diffrent way (except for one or two) and no one is taking time to read through care­fully and every­one is just clash­ing at each other, but I’m sorry Big Don is deserv­ing of every negi­t­ive com­ment, he is noth­ing but a talk of ass.
    I think every­one has the right of free speech, but when you talk about Detroit vs.Chicago there is no diffrence, there both in the same class that’s not mean, that’s the truth. I love the city of Detroit that’s were I grew up at, that’s were my family is but real­ity is is that Detroit is not a city of pro­gres­sive­ness and want­ing to help there­selves, becuase believe it or not as long as Detroit has a city of pre­doni­mately African-​American people (which I’am) it will never be better becuase of this new gen­er­a­tion.
    Martin Luther King faught for black free­dom and now that we have it, were still not using what we have, we say were free but our com­mu­ni­ties aren’t free of vio­lence and poverty. Martin Luther King gave us the free­dom to speak out and have our own com­mu­ni­ties, and now that we’ve got it what the he’ll are we doing with it, noth­ing. We treat the nice things like ass and theres no respect for our free­dom.
    Ques­tion: What hap­pens to a gro­cery store when they biuld it in Detroit?
    Answer: It doesnt look new after a couple of weeks or a month, becuase of lack of respect. There­fore it turns into a shit hole because nobody cared.
    Ques­tion: What hap­penes to a new park when they build it in Detroit?
    Anwer: It becomes a place were gang­sters hang out at, and drug deal­ers find a look out for young people so they become a drug dealer. Because nobody cared about keep­ing the park safe and keep­ing the park clean and pretty.
    Ques­tion: What hap­pens to the malls in Detroit?
    Answer: They close the stores down because people robe and shop lift. “Everyone needs money ” “so the best way I can get is by robing”.
    Ques­tion: What hap­pens to the banks in Detroit?
    Answer: Wow, thats one thing there going to pro­tect is the money, so they have to put bul­let­proof glass every where (and no thats not at all banks across The United States, that’s just for the black cities or the hood) they don’t do that here in Hous­ton, we don’t have glass over to block us from thiev­ing or robing, we actu­ally shake hands with the tellers because once again Hous­ton don’t play shit. Oh, that’s not brag­ging, that’s a point.
    Ques­tion: When was the last time you guys felt Detroit was a mil­lion bucks?
    Answer: I know I feel Hous­ton is a mil­lion bucks. Any­body that doesn’t feel there city is a mil­lion bucks shouldn’t be living there.

  • winans freak
    October 9, 2004 at 6:03 pm

    Okay, To every­body I under­stand the whole point of view of every last one of you guys post. By all means this is just so dam simple, Detroit just needs to care, it’s not enough people fight­ing for their com­mu­ni­ties and fight­ing for the whole city of Detroit. What every­one needs to under­stand is is that until Detroit straighten there whole atti­tude or mind-​set of there city, and stop the men­tal­ity of not caring for nobody but them­selves, and start caring for there com­mu­nity then they would be okay. I think every­body has been saying the same thing just in a diffrent way (except for one or two) and no one is taking time to read through care­fully and every­one is just clash­ing at each other, but I’m sorry Big Don is deserv­ing of every negi­t­ive com­ment, he is noth­ing but a talk of ass.
    I think every­one has the right of free speech, but when you talk about Detroit vs.Chicago there is no diffrence, there both in the same class that’s not mean, that’s the truth. I love the city of Detroit that’s were I grew up at, that’s were my family is but real­ity is is that Detroit is not a city of pro­gres­sive­ness and want­ing to help there­selves, becuase believe it or not as long as Detroit has a city of pre­doni­mately African-​American people (which I’am) it will never be better becuase of this new gen­er­a­tion.
    Martin Luther King faught for black free­dom and now that we have it, were still not using what we have, we say were free but our com­mu­ni­ties aren’t free of vio­lence and poverty. Martin Luther King gave us the free­dom to speak out and have our own com­mu­ni­ties, and now that we’ve got it what the he’ll are we doing with it, noth­ing. We treat the nice things like ass and theres no respect for our free­dom.
    Ques­tion: What hap­pens to a gro­cery store when they biuld it in Detroit?
    Answer: It doesnt look new after a couple of weeks or a month, becuase of lack of respect. There­fore it turns into a shit hole because nobody cared.
    Ques­tion: What hap­penes to a new park when they build it in Detroit?
    Anwer: It becomes a place were gang­sters hang out at, and drug deal­ers find a look out for young people so they become a drug dealer. Because nobody cared about keep­ing the park safe and keep­ing the park clean and pretty.
    Ques­tion: What hap­pens to the malls in Detroit?
    Answer: They close the stores down because people robe and shop lift. “Everyone needs money ” “so the best way I can get is by robing”.
    Ques­tion: What hap­pens to the banks in Detroit?
    Answer: Wow, thats one thing there going to pro­tect is the money, so they have to put bul­let­proof glass every where (and no thats not at all banks across The United States, that’s just for the black cities or the hood) they don’t do that here in Hous­ton, we don’t have glass over to block us from thiev­ing or robing, we actu­ally shake hands with the tellers because once again Hous­ton don’t play shit. Oh, that’s not brag­ging, that’s a point.
    Ques­tion: When was the last time you guys felt Detroit was a mil­lion bucks?
    Answer: I know I feel Hous­ton is a mil­lion bucks. Any­body that doesn’t feel there city is a mil­lion bucks shouldn’t be living there.

  • BigDog
    November 15, 2004 at 3:11 pm

    Instead of talk­ing on this chat all day people should be con­cerned about why Detroit has no jobs. The World Trade Orga­ni­za­tion is why nobody has jobs nowa­days. NAFTA gave away all our jobs to mexico. The police in amer­ica are get­ting way to cor­rupt. Police stun guns should be banned. I hear way to many sto­ries about police offi­cers using stun guns to hurt people. Write your con­gress­man and tell them you dont want police offi­cers to use stun guns any­more. Stun guns should a wire into a humans skin so they can shock them with it. Many people have died beca­sue of police using these cruel devices. Tell every­body you can that police stun guns need to be banned across the United States. Police offi­cers are using the stun guns to abuse people with.

  • The One
    November 20, 2004 at 7:32 am

    So BigDog are you saying that Detroit has no jobs because of stun guns and cor­rupt police?

    I am won­der­ing who the law biding cit­i­zens can con­tact about the cor­rupt lowlife crim­i­nals who steal our rights, our streets, our pos­ses­sions, and most of all our faith in society.

    I like the fact the police to have the abil­ity to demo­bi­lize an overly aggres­sive indi­vid­ual who is most likely hyped up on somethin.

    I also am in favor of the abil­ity for the police to uti­lize a rea­son­able level of pro­fil­ing when per­form­ing their jobs.

    We give the scum crim­i­nals too many rights.

    If a person resists arrest, AND there is a rea­son­able assump­tion that the resis­tors will uti­lize ANY means pos­si­ble to escape incar­cer­a­tion, deadly force should be autho­rized and used. Most of these lowlifes will NEVER con­tribute any­thing to soci­ety anyways!

    We spend way too much time at trying to find fault in the police.
    Why is that?
    Do you think the fault find­ers or the anti-​police, pro­tes­tors are actu­ally crim­i­nals them­selves or at least related to or are friends with some­one who is.
    They say there is honor amongst thieves, and any­time a group of people in a cer­tain com­mu­nity starts whin­ing about the police, a rea­son­ably intel­li­gent indi­vid­ual would have to ask them­selves, is this the same as the imma­ture teens who are resis­tant to any form of author­ity.
    Teenagers stick together like glue against the adults, sounds like the anti-​police folks are basi­cally the same (anti-​authority).

    If you freely cohab­i­tate with, or con­tinue to harbor the crim­i­nals in your com­mu­nity, then you your­self will be guilty by asso­ci­a­tion and thus become the target.

    The root cause is not the police, and the ends do jus­tify the means.

  • Chad
    November 25, 2004 at 5:08 pm

    I just got back from my first trip to Detroit ever. My band played a show at Alvin’s on Cass, off Wood­ward I believe. We stayed at the Hol­i­day Inn on Wash­ing­ton Blvd. I was really blown away by this city and have been read­ing about it since I got back. I’m just very intrigued as to what hap­pened to it. Most of the city area was under con­struc­tion, and the build­ings were all old and worn down. Just very inter­est­ing is all. We had a really good time there and the show was really fun… but I’m now back in Mil­wau­kee trying to figure out how Detroit became what it is.

  • Kassie
    November 29, 2004 at 12:32 am

    I think Detroit must have problems…why else did it’s pop­u­la­tion fall under one mil­lion people?

  • Truth Be Hidden
    November 29, 2004 at 7:46 pm

    It’s a shame that free­dom of speech or thought does not exist in this forum.
    The mod has been want­ing to stifle this thread for a long time now, so shut it down for god sake or else let it flow on it’s own (good or bad)!!!

    Chad asked valid ques­tions, now let people answer him (truth­fully). You can’t candy coat or pro­tect people from the truth.

  • Nedward
    November 29, 2004 at 9:20 pm

    Dear “truth”,

    I won’t allow racist, hate-​filled speech on my weblog. That is not “truth”, nor should it be pro­tected speech.

    I already feel hor­ri­ble for diss­ing Greater Detroit, but I’m let­ting this dis­cus­sion con­tinue, so long as it remains civil, and sticks to the facts.

    Also, I’m lazy when it comes to approv­ing com­ments. If you all used “Typekey”:http://typekey.com, I wouldn’t have to.

    Thanks,
    the management.

  • Truth
    November 30, 2004 at 7:42 pm

    Ned, This is to you not the board

    You mis­take the facts (hard and cold) for racism or hate filled.
    You sir do not know me, how can you pre-​judge my state­ments as hate filled or racist.
    We unfor­tu­nantly are a hyper sen­si­tive soci­ety in which you seem to be affected as well.
    I wrote very truth­fui com­ments about the his­tory of pol­i­tics in Detroit, like it or not. Noth­ing new, noth­ing that cannot be ver­i­fied read­ing archived news­pa­per arti­cles, or speak­ing to those who lived through it. (Which I did at least most)
    It is not slant.ed nor is it a jaded view, but yet you feel the need to be the judge and jury on that.
    This is your forum I accept that, but you have opened it for dis­cus­sion, and then you sensor the com­ments. I agree that direct racist or hate mes­sage should be tossed, but only if they directly are ment to hurt some­one per­son­ally. If it is a generalization…I say let it alone. Let people say what they need to.
    Some people just like to vent, let the dis­cus­sion par­tic­i­pants be the judge as a col­lec­tive. Sort of a democ­racy thing.

    Thanks for lis­ten­ing. Peace
    By the way…I got peeps in Ply­mouth Ma, great place for sure.

  • Diesel
    December 2, 2004 at 11:51 pm

    I can think of no other city in Amer­ica in which I would rather have been born than the dynamic city of Detroit.

    Ask me why, maybe i’ll respond, sometime.

  • jer
    December 3, 2004 at 12:10 pm

    well jsut do u all know i am from detroit. i would have to agree it is some what of a shit hole. but it is start­ing to come up.outside of down town is not great i know but in what city is that not true? it obvi­ously cant be that bad if the super­bowl is coming in a year. so please dont dog on city that u dont even live in. cause if u do ur just a worth­less hater­who is just jeal­ous of this city

  • WOW
    December 5, 2004 at 5:59 pm

    You guys have been talk­ing about Detroits prob­lems for years now. I am from Erie, across the lake from Detroit and have to say thanks for all of the pol­lu­tion the city emits. It gave Erie one of the best sun­sets all over the world. DETROIT DOES SUCK, along with the Pis­tons, the Lions, MSU and the Tigers.

  • Mary
    December 6, 2004 at 12:29 pm

    I was born and raised in Detroit and I can say it is a great city because of what is has allowed me to become. Its public school system has put in me the skills I needed to make me suc­cess­ful at the pre­si­gious lib­eral arts col­lege I now attend. It has also strengthed me pro­fes­sion­ally and allows me to be com­pet­i­tive in the aca­d­e­mic and work world. I do not regret living there and I plan to move back there to help in the rebuild­ing and progress of the city.

    People, with the help of the media, act as places like Chicago and New York are such won­der­ful places when they are engulfed in crime and poverty. A major dif­fer­ence that people see in these cities are the devel­oped areas such as the down­town area of Chicago. If people look deeper they can see that these cities have very dan­ger­ous and impov­er­ished areas. Futher­more, every­one should real­ize that all urban areas have some form of sprawl and per­pet­u­at­ing neg­a­tive images of cities like Detroit is con­tribut­ing to the prob­lem and not the solu­tion. The media and the public can say what it will, but Detroit is on the rise. If you are not a part of the solu­tion, you are a part of the prob­lem. Bad mouthing a city is not a part of the solu­tion and nei­ther is moving away to the sub­urbs, as many have done.

    It’s funny how people in Amer­ica choose to simply talk about prob­lems or flee them. The prob­lems will still be there. Also as we look down upon and talk about cities “sucking”, we are becom­ing fur­ther ununited as a nation when we should really be con­cerned about stick­ing together and not just becom­ing united when a ter­ror­sit decides to run another plane into one of our nations build­ings. United we stand, divided we fall.

    Detroit is a great city and I am proud of what it has made me. Let us move away from all the “playerhation” and let all the cities come together in our nation.

  • nackel
    December 6, 2004 at 10:31 pm

    I have to thank Mary for her comments.

    Detroi­ters so often shoots them­selves in the back when some­thing hap­pens there.
    They simply view it as another blotch on our bad image.
    Stop believ­ing it.
    Embrace this city and all that it is, or it will never move for­ward and be stuck for­ever with the bad image we keep giving it.
    As far as I’m con­cerned, anyone living in SE Michi­gan 30 miles in any direc­tion from Wood­ward and Jef­fer­son, is from the great city of Detroit.
    Believe it and Embrace it.

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