Detroiters so often shoots themselves in the back when something happens there.
They simply view it as another blotch on our bad image.
Stop believing it.
Embrace this city and all that it is, or it will never move forward and be stuck forever with the bad image we keep giving it.
As far as I’m concerned, anyone living in SE Michigan 30 miles in any direction from Woodward and Jefferson, is from the great city of Detroit.
Believe it and Embrace it.

People, with the help of the media, act as places like Chicago and New York are such wonderful places when they are engulfed in crime and poverty. A major difference that people see in these cities are the developed areas such as the downtown area of Chicago. If people look deeper they can see that these cities have very dangerous and impoverished areas. Futhermore, everyone should realize that all urban areas have some form of sprawl and perpetuating negative images of cities like Detroit is contributing to the problem and not the solution. The media and the public can say what it will, but Detroit is on the rise. If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the problem. Bad mouthing a city is not a part of the solution and neither is moving away to the suburbs, as many have done.

It’s funny how people in America choose to simply talk about problems or flee them. The problems will still be there. Also as we look down upon and talk about cities “sucking”, we are becoming further ununited as a nation when we should really be concerned about sticking together and not just becoming united when a terrorsit decides to run another plane into one of our nations buildings. United we stand, divided we fall.

Detroit is a great city and I am proud of what it has made me. Let us move away from all the “playerhation” and let all the cities come together in our nation.

Ask me why, maybe i’ll respond, sometime.

You mistake the facts (hard and cold) for racism or hate filled.
You sir do not know me, how can you pre-judge my statements as hate filled or racist.
We unfortunantly are a hyper sensitive society in which you seem to be affected as well.
I wrote very truthfui comments about the history of politics in Detroit, like it or not. Nothing new, nothing that cannot be verified reading archived newspaper articles, or speaking to those who lived through it. (Which I did at least most)
It is not slant.ed nor is it a jaded view, but yet you feel the need to be the judge and jury on that.
This is your forum I accept that, but you have opened it for discussion, and then you sensor the comments. I agree that direct racist or hate message should be tossed, but only if they directly are ment to hurt someone personally. If it is a generalization…I say let it alone. Let people say what they need to.
Some people just like to vent, let the discussion participants be the judge as a collective. Sort of a democracy thing.

Thanks for listening. Peace
By the way…I got peeps in Plymouth Ma, great place for sure.

I won’t allow racist, hate-filled speech on my weblog. That is not “truth”, nor should it be protected speech.

I already feel horrible for dissing Greater Detroit, but I’m letting this discussion continue, so long as it remains civil, and sticks to the facts.

Also, I’m lazy when it comes to approving comments. If you all used “Typekey”:http://typekey.com, I wouldn’t have to.

Thanks,
the management.

Chad asked valid questions, now let people answer him (truthfully). You can’t candy coat or protect people from the truth.

I am wondering who the law biding citizens can contact about the corrupt lowlife criminals who steal our rights, our streets, our possessions, and most of all our faith in society.

I like the fact the police to have the ability to demobilize an overly aggressive individual who is most likely hyped up on somethin.

I also am in favor of the ability for the police to utilize a reasonable level of profiling when performing their jobs.

We give the scum criminals too many rights.

If a person resists arrest, AND there is a reasonable assumption that the resistors will utilize ANY means possible to escape incarceration, deadly force should be authorized and used. Most of these lowlifes will NEVER contribute anything to society anyways!

We spend way too much time at trying to find fault in the police.
Why is that?
Do you think the fault finders or the anti-police, protestors are actually criminals themselves or at least related to or are friends with someone who is.
They say there is honor amongst thieves, and anytime a group of people in a certain community starts whining about the police, a reasonably intelligent individual would have to ask themselves, is this the same as the immature teens who are resistant to any form of authority.
Teenagers stick together like glue against the adults, sounds like the anti-police folks are basically the same (anti-authority).

If you freely cohabitate with, or continue to harbor the criminals in your community, then you yourself will be guilty by association and thus become the target.

The root cause is not the police, and the ends do justify the means.

The funny (or not so funny) thing is, as said before there are many fingers pointing the blame…but with every hand pointing a finger…there are 4 pointing right back. What I am saying is it is easy to blame blame blame, but not so easy accepting responsibility.
In my neighborhood most people tend to their own property with care, which relates zero to economics but rather pride. Pride to where you live, who you are, or just plain pride in knowing you are contributing to the beauty of a community.

Onward to you accusation of racism�That is where you intelligence takes a plummeting drop right into the crap hole. It�s the same as blaming the landlords in Detroit. It is of course the easy thing to do�but it lacks one thing, shared responsibility!
If a guy as you said is working 60 to 80 hours a week at the big three, and all he can do with his money is blow it on a 40,000 vehicle 10,000 rims, and 5,000 or more on sound,
and at the same time as having a house that looks like crap with garbage in the yard or whatever is irresponsible.
That is a selfish person, but as you said it�s his money he can do what he wants with it. That sure is the easy way out aint it? Being responsible is never easy, having fun and partying is not hard at all, but from the looks of the D, it seems there may be a little too much partying going on.
Life is not about just doing whatever you want without regard to others.
How are people supposed to live amongst each other in a community if we take that kind of selfish position?
And by the way, who the f are you to call me racist (or even imply it), you donÂ�t even know anything about me. Christ I could be freakin Japanese or Haitian for all you know!

Back to the renters or rental units�I rented and I kept my yard and house looking decent, I have also lived next to old people and vacant properties and helped take care of these types of things when they could not. It�s called priorities, life priorities and high morals are the backbone of a successful community.
So while Joe/Bill/Tom have a right to buy what they want, the have a duty and responsibility to help their community by taking care of their own property.

There are some that do care about whats what in the city, but by and large you have this huge body of people waiting (like hungry baby chicks waiting for food from mother bird) for someone to come save them.

It’s time to wake up and be responsible!

I was born and raised in a small Texas town. The difference in attitudes when I moved to Detroit was hard to adjust to. There are a few realities we all need to deal with:
1 Blanket statements about SOME residents with expensive rims are purely racists. Most of the people you see with flashy cars in Detroit work for one of the ‘Big 3′, working 70 – 80 hours a week. What they choose to spend their money on is their business, they’ve earned it.

2. There are BEAUTIFUL areas of the city, (Riverfront, Sherwood Forest, Boston Edison District etc.). And to make any comments about City residents not caring without ‘SOME’ attached is false and misleading. The bulk of run down housing is rental property. The owners of which, (by and large according to tax records) are primarily suburbanites

By the same token

3. At the present time, there are several areas of the city that are not fit for Caucasian occupation. As stated before, I am looking with an outsiders view point. There are no areas of the city I have not been in, (being Black, 6’1″ and 315 lbs does help). But I’ve had no problems. Not one. I’ve seen a lot of bad things and conditions that we just would not stand for in Texas. All of the responsibility ultimately falls on the shoulders of the residents, but it is not a lost cause.

I’m not trying to make Detroit look like ass, But don’t step foot down there if you got some shit to say like that, don’t talk stuff. Chicago is just as worst so don’t talk and your city is a second away from being there too.

To The Real Deal:
You totally right man, I love Detroit, but I moved becuase of trouble man, it’s a lot of stuff go on down there. You try to do right but nigaz got drugs or going to jail even the ladies. So I moved to Houston, TX for a better life I got a house, a mustang, and it’s just very respectful, down here all black folk got respect you may go into 4th ward,5th ward and find some crazy ones but other than that it’s cool. Peace out Man and good luck to Detroit. I love ya’ll and tell nana and poo I be down there this christmas.

Why should I get a life? Your on this forum as much as I am. If someone in your family got a divorce would they still be considered brother and sister after it? RealDeal its obvious that as a child your daddy sexually abused you. Did you moan when he stuck his wang in ya. Why couldnt your daddy have pulled out when he was doing your momma. Instead he created a useless piece of space — You. If you really do live in Detroit than I feel sorry for you. Even Charles Barkley made the statement that Detroit and Cleveland are the two worst cities in the USA. I hate charles barkley but he has a point on this one. See ya and keep your finger out of your dads butt.

Secondly…your reference to my use of the word “spose”..well my intent was to spell it to show that you shouldnâ��t take life or this forum too awfully serious…obviously you didn’t get the memo… I spose a dwarfed IQ could be the culprit.

Well were do we begin there genius?
Right #1 of your commentsâ�¦well it is supply and demand moronâ�¦if people didnâ��t want them, they wouldnâ��t have made millions.

#2 YOU SAIDâ�¦â�� — Every car manufacturing job has left the city — which in turn makes Detroit a city with no good paying jobsâ�� Yet another bogus and rediculas statement. How you gonna speak on this if you donâ��t have a clueâ�¦auto jobs are plentiful in this region. As well as MANY technology jobs.

#3 In sports you live it this seasonâ�¦Lions are undefeted Wings are great, Tigers arent lastâ�¦and the Pistons kicked assâ�¦.hmmmmm

#4 YOU SAIDâ�¦â�� — Every year the population of the city drops by thousands, pretty soon Detroit will have about 100,000 people — if people are leaving your city by thousands every year you might wanna get the hell out of there — â��
By pretty soon you mean??? Even if the city lost 16000 a year it would take 52 (yes thatâ��s fifty two) years before the city got to 100,000. Shouldnâ��t have skipped that day bubba!

#5 YOU SAID â��Michigan is the laughing stock of the USâ�� Well thatâ��s sort of silly so I wonâ��t dignify it with a comment.

Lastly:
Robin Williams lived in Bloomfield Michigan (Father was an executive at Ford Motor Co) as a child until age 16 when he moved to California with his family. He was born in Chicago.
Againâ�¦speak to what you knowâ�¦not what you believe!

Wisconsin and Iowa are known as dairy states..I didnâ��t think Michigan wasâ�¦but then again I am from the city and donâ��t really care, so your milk statement is sort of misdirected and non-applicable.

Have a great day there bama

Yes, Detroit’s murder count in 2003 was the lowest since 1968, but give me a break. Detroit had around 1.7 million people in ’68 and it has around 900,000 now, so its murder rate is still astronomical. New York is not experiencing a surge in violence; its crime rate (particularly its homicide rate) continues to go down. Detroit’s violent crime rate may also be declining, but its murder rate is up from last year.

I will say, however, that Detroit no longer has the highest total crime rate of America’s largest cities, as that happy honor belongs to Dallas now. It does, however, still have a hell of a long way to go.

Preseason means nothing:
When is the last time the Tigers or Lions have won a championship? Thats what I thought chump

And obviously your IQ isnt that high because you spelled suppose as spose. Wow you are quite the genius – NOT!!!

Detroit is just a lame city anyway you cut it. Oh and by the way Robin Williams is from Chicago not Detroit. Stop trying to be a wannabe Chicago. Detroit wishes it was a real city. The artists you named are total crap. Which proves my point again that nothing good has ever come out of Detroit. Detroit lost 16,000 people on the last census. Try reading a book sometime, but you are from michigan so I wouldnt expect too much from your brain. Go back to milking your cows in your hick state.

Detroit is known for many talented music artists. It is one of the very few good things that does come from Detroit. A wide variety of musical tastes would agree that the D puts in on the map as a major producer of musical talent.

From Stevie Wonder to Mandonna and The Temps to Eminem, along with Iggy Pop and Aaliyah, Anita Baker, Bob Segar, Ted Nugent, Aretha, and the White Stripes to name just a couple.
I too know my music history

Quite a few good actors have been spawned from the D as well. Blair Underwood Tim Allen, Tom Selleck and Robin Williams and many more.

Not much else happens in Detroit, but the region produces a lot of great talent. Now if the residents of the city proper could figure the whole thing out….man they would be a force to be reckoned with.

So to those that just flap it�get your facts in line before you start slinging the bads on the talent that comes out of the D.
There aint to many places in the WORLD where this much tallent and or products comes from.
Even if it is one of the most crime ridden puke holes in the United States.

This leads me to my point…Detroit is a puke hole, and you don’t have to be a genius to see it.
Taking pride in yourself and neighborhood go beyond knowing what country your ancestry originated from, but starts right in your own yard.
Manners is a good place to start I agree, being polite donÂ�t cost a red cent, but hating cost us all so much more!

A coat of paint, a bag of fertilizer, a few azaleas, this is the curb appeal starts the trend.
Having a Lexus may allow some to feel like they are important, but then they drive that $45,000 vehicle to their $10,000 house. Talk about misplaced priorities!
If folks invested (yes invested) into their own communities, it would start the forward motion of progress, which in turn would bring attention and growth to the area, which then would bring the interest of business.
To many fingers pointing and blaming of others for businesses pulling out of Detroit, well you gonna open a shop where you run the risk of DYING because your trying to sell milk, eggs and other groceries?
Clean up the neighborhoods and you will change the trend and current culture, and then watch things change.

If Detroit stays with the current trend and does nothing, the city will most certainly perish. The few remaining businesses and companies will move further away from Detroit to accommodate those moving further away from the Â�DÂ� and all the crap that is there.

It’s all about being humble, not about fronting.